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October 4, 2008

Did a Judge Order Obama to Produce his Birth Certificate?

I received an email today from Bud that goes as follows:


By Jon Christian Dryer

October 3, 2008

NewsWithViews. com

On September 29, 2008 US District Court Judge R. Barclay Surrick, the
federal magistrate for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania ruled in
the matter of Philip J. Berg vs Barack Hussein Obama, et al as the
world was distracted by the $700 billion subprime mortgage crisis.
Obama signed a breathe of relief as the mainstream media chose to
ignore the question:

"Can Senator Barack Hussein Obama legally seek the office of President
of the United States?"

[large portion redacted here - see extended entry to full article]

© 2008 Jon C. Ryter - All Rights Reserved

So, I did some research and the article in question by "Jon Christian Dryer" does not exist on the NewsWithViews.com website. Furthermore, the top of the article lists the author as "Jon Christian Dryer" but the article is signed by "Jon C. Ryter". There is a person named "Jon C. Ryter" that has articles posted on NewsWithViews.com website, but this article is not to be found there.

I checked with Snopes, and they were kind enough to allow as to how Obama is being sued by Philip J. Berg, but they had no specific reference to this particular rumor. Plus, keep in mind that Snopes cannot be trusted as they are clearly in the tank for the Dimocrats. I noticed this some time ago. It would be nice if they were impartial, but they aren't and they can't be trusted when politics are involved.

So, there definitely is a lawsuit filed against Obama by Philip J. Berg over Obama's citizenship and the suit has been moving forward for some time. You can follow the status of the lawsuit against Obama at Citizen Wells.

I found Philip Berg's cell phone number here.

So, I called him on his cell phone and spoke to him for some time. He's a nice guy and he does have a lawsuit against Obama, but the story I saw was a mistake made by someone who saw Philip Berg's response to the jugde and mistakenly believe that the judge had asked Obama to produce his birth certificate. This is not the case.

However, the judge may very well do just that in the next few days. If the judge grants Philip J. Berg the rights of "discovery", then Obama will have to produce a birth certificate.

You can learn more about the suit and follow it at Philip J. Berg's website ObamaCrimes.com.

Hold the phone, folks. This one could get interesting. :)


By Jon Christian Dryer

October 3, 2008

NewsWithViews. com

On September 29, 2008 US District Court Judge R. Barclay Surrick, the
federal magistrate for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania ruled in
the matter of Philip J. Berg vs Barack Hussein Obama, et al as the
world was distracted by the $700 billion subprime mortgage crisis.
Obama signed a breathe of relief as the mainstream media chose to
ignore the question:

"Can Senator Barack Hussein Obama legally seek the office of President
of the United States?"

The flap began in June when National Review's Jim Geraghty raised
the question and asked the Obama Campaign to release a copy of his
birth certificate in order to prove that he actually was born in the
United States. (Reports had previously surfaced claiming that Obama's
Kenyan grandmother, Sarah Hussein Obama, told reporters that Obama was
not born in Hawaii, but in Kenya. She reportedly told reporters that
when her son, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. returned to Kenya he was
accompanied by a pregnant white wife who was close to term.)

Obama's family did not take to Stanley Ann Dunham Obama well according
to Sarah Obama because she was white. Shortly after she arrived in
Kenya Stanley Ann decided to return to Hawaii because she did not like
how Muslim men treated their wives in Kenya. However, because she was
near term the airline would not let her fly until after the birth of
her baby. Obama's grandmother said the baby was born in Kenya and that
shortly after Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. was born, Stanley Ann returned
to Hawaii.

Purportedly, when she arrived back in Hawaii, Stanley Anne registered
her son's live birth as an event which had just "happened" in Hawaii.
This supposition is based on the appearance, shortly after Nov. 6,
2007, of a Hawaiian birth certificate that was issued, as a duplicate
birth certificate, by the State of Hawaii to a US Senator who
requested it.

While the Internet screamed that the birth certificate, which appeared
on the Obama Campaign's "Fight The Smears" website and was also
downloaded and used by far left blogger Markos Zuniga on his website,
Daily Kos, it was not an electronic image concocted by Daily KOs as
was hypothesized by a self-described cybersleuth who uses the cyber
pseudonym Techdude. It was the real McCoy even if it was issued as a
political favor to a prospective Democratic presidential candidate by
a Democrat official in Hawaii. The county clerk who issued the
document, which purports to be a copy of an original document, was
date stamped "Nov. 6, 2007" on the reverse side of the birth
certificate in blue ink which bled through and is visible on the front
of the electronic image.

Attorney Philip J. Berg, the former head of the Montgomery County.
Pennsylvania Democratic Party and a former member of the Democratic
State Convention and, reportedly a Hillary Clinton supporter, wanted
to learn the truth from the myriad of rumors that also suggested that
Sen. Obama may also have been a citizen of Indonesia. The only
consistent part of the story was Stanley Ann returning to Hawaii to
claim he had been in the United States and was a US citizen. In his
ruling, Judge Surrick noted that the "...cause came before the United
States District Court Judge, Honorable R. Barclay Surrick on defendant
Barack Hussein Obama and the Democratic National Committee's motion to
dismiss." The order continued, "Having reviewed the motion and
plaintiff's opposition to said motion and for good cause shown, it is
hereby ordered that the motion to dismiss pursuant to F.R.C.P.
12(b)(1) and 12(b)(6) is denied. It is further order of this court
that the following discovery is to be turned over to plaintiff within
three (3) days.

1. Obama's "vault" version (certified copy of his "original" long
version) birth certificate; and
2. a certified copy of Obama's Certificate of Citizenship;
3. a certified copy of Obama's oath of allegiance."

In his original filing, Berg specifically asked for those three items.
Berg told the court that "...at the time Plaintiff's complaint was
filed, Plaintiff was requesting protections from the court in order to
stop Obama from being nominated by the DNC as the Democratic
Presidential Nominee as Obama is not eligible to serve as President of
the United States. However, Obama was nominated by the DNC...For that
reason, Plaintiff must amend his complaint and will be amending this
complaint to file a First Amendment complaint... ."

Berg argued that he felt it was the role of the Federal Election
Commission to ensure that presidential and congressional candidates
are eligible to hold the positions for which they were seeking, and
that those candidates run a fair and legitimate campaign. "In vetting
the presidential candidate," Berg argued, "the DNC and the FEC are
required to ensure the eligibility requirements pursuant to our
Constitution are met and the Presidential nominee, if elected, is
qualified and eligible to serve pursuant to our United States
Constitution. In order to be eligible to run for the Office of
President of the United States, you must be a "natural born" citizen.

"There appears to be no question that Defendant Obama's mother,
Stanley Ann Dunham, was a US citizen. It is also undisputed, however,
that his father, Barack Obama, Sr., was a citizen of Kenya. Obama's
parents, according to divorce recorded, were married on or about
February 2, 1961."

"Defendant Obama claims he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. on August 4,
1961 and it is uncertain in which hospital he claims to have been born.

Obama's grandmother on his father's side, his half-brother and
half-sister all claim Obama was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya.
Reports reflect that Obama's mother traveled to Kenya during her
pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from
Kenya to Hawaii. at her late stage of pregnancy (which apparently are
normal restrictions, to avoid births during flights). By these
reports, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after
which she flew home and registered Obama's birth. There are records of
a "registry of birth" for Obama, on or about August 8, 1961 in the
public records office in Hawaii."

Berg's investigators revealed that Obama's own half-sister Maya
Soetoro - with whom he was raised - seemed not to know where her own
brother was born. In the Nov., 2004 interview by the Rainbow
Newsletter Maya Soetoro said Obama was born on Aug. 4, 1961 at Queens
Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii. In February, 2008 Maya was
interviewed by the Star Bulletin. This time she told reporters that
Obama was born on August 4, 1961 at the Kaliolani Medical Center for
Women and Children.
On June 9, 2008 Wayne Madsen, a journalist with Online Journal
published an article in which he said a research team went to
Mombassa, Kenya and located a Certificate registering the live birth
of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. to his father, a Kenyan citizen and his
mother, a US citizen.

Berg's argument to the court was that under the US Nationality Act of
1940, Section 317 (b), a minor child follows the naturalization and
citizenship status of his or her custodial parent. In Obama's case,
Berg argued, a minor child follows the naturalization and citizenship
status of his or her custodial father. Obama's Indonesian stepfather,
Lolo Soetora signed a statement acknowledging Obama as his son, giving
Obama natural Indonesian citizenship, which explains the name "Barry
Soetoro" and his citizenship listed as Indonesian. Loss of US
citizenship, under US law in effect in 1967 required that foreign
citizenship be achieved through "application. " Which, according to
Berg, is precisely what happened to Obama when his mother married
Soetoro and the family moved to Indonesia.

When Obama and his mother moved to Indonesia, Obama had already been
enrolled in school; something that could not have happened under
Indonesian law if Soetoro had not signed an acknowledgment (the
application) affirming that Obama was his son, it deemed his son to be
an Indonesian State citizen. (Citizenship of Republic of Indonesia,
Law No. 9 of 1992 dated 31 mar. 1992, Indonesia Civil Code): "...State
children of Indonesia include: (viii) children who are born outside of
legal marriage from foreign State citizen mother who are acknowledged
by father who is Indonesian State citizen as his children and that
acknowledgment is made prior to children reaching 18 years of age or
prior to marriage; Republic of Indonesia Constitution, 1945."
Furthermore, under Indonesian law, if a resident Indonesian citizen
married a foreigner (in this case, Lolo Soetoro marrying Stanley
Ann Obama) she was required to renounce her US citizenship.

In his lawsuit, Berg demanded a copy of Obama's Certificate of
Citizenship, a document Obama must have applied for to regain his
citizenship - which was lost in Indonesia. He will have that document
only if the proper paperwork was filed with the US State Department
when Obama returned to Hawaii in 1971 since that is the only way Obama
could regain his US "natural born" status. Berg is convinced that
Obama was never naturalized in the United States after his return.
Obama returned to his maternal grandparents in Hawaii without his
mother. Since she is the only one who could have filed for the
reinstatement of his citizenship, it is unlikely it ever happened. If
it did, his Certificate of Citizenship would affirm his right to seek
the office of President.

Without it, Barack Obama is just another resident alien who can't
legally hold his seat in the US Senate.

© 2008 Jon C. Ryter - All Rights Reserved

Posted by Rob Kiser on October 4, 2008 at 5:21 PM


Clayton Cramer at www.claytoncramer.com/weblog/2008_10_05_archive.html#3814841389619982400 wrote:

Instead of simply providing the certified Hawaii birth certificate that would satisfy Berg's request--and clearly establish that Obama is a natural born citizen of the U.S.--the lawyers for Obama and the DNC are claiming that Berg doesn't have standing to file the suit.

In this case, Mr. Berg fails to allege any concrete, specific injury in fact to himself.... For that reason, a voter does not have standing to challenge the qualifications of a candidate for President of the United States.

Ordinarily, you would only make an issue of standing if you thought you might lose if the plaintiff established standing, or if you were concerned about the costs of defending such a suit. But the only way that they could lose would be if Obama couldn't provide a valid, certified birth certificate establishing that he was born in Hawaii. How hard could that be?

Posted by: anonymous on October 5, 2008 at 9:58 PM

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